Conversation with gman.certified@gmail.com at 6/10/2014 12:12:49 AM on PsychosesMan (aim)

(12:12:49 AM) Griffin: ey assault on castle tobenstein
(12:12:56 AM) Griffin: have you heard la roux's new single
(12:12:57 AM) Griffin: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/06/09/la_roux_releases_tropical_chancer_hear_the_british_singer_s_latest_song.html
(12:13:06 AM) Tobi: i havent
(12:13:09 AM) Tobi: listening now
(12:14:15 AM) Tobi: she's gotten a lot more versatile since the first album
(12:14:17 AM) Tobi: i like this
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(7:29:28 PM) Tobi: sup griffmaster the movie: do you remember love
(7:29:54 PM) Griffin: watching the cancer-eater episode of x-files
(7:30:02 PM) Griffin: man, mulder is such a HUGE asshole
(7:30:24 PM) Tobi: hes almost proto-house
(7:30:27 PM) Tobi: liminal house
(7:30:32 PM) Griffin: yeah
(7:31:06 PM) Griffin: mulder and scully's characters and relationship dynamic have influenced a lot of the modern "dickheaded genius with a heart of gold" wave of procedurals and profiler shows
(7:32:06 PM) Tobi: remind me, is he ever wrong? one of the things I liked about 2006 kolchak was that at least twice in the short span of the show he was wrong about it being supernatural and he was okay with that as long as the mystery was solved and everyone was saved who could've been
(7:32:16 PM) Griffin: Yeah, I think so
(7:32:42 PM) Tobi: I also liked that he was brave and put himself in danger and tried to save people above and beyond the call of duty. he wanted to do the right thing and the article writing was secondary.
(7:32:57 PM) Tobi: also i liked the evolution of his relationship with gabrielle union character
(7:32:57 PM) Griffin: Which is better than The Mentalist and Psych, which, despite not having much at all in common, almost always proved their leads' hunches right in the end, and implicitly endorsed their incredibly alienating behavior
(7:33:00 PM) Tobi: perri? peri?
(7:33:57 PM) Tobi: I felt like psych did a much better job of making shaun a likeable scamp who had some genuinely grating qualities that were not always excused, particularly when it came to being insensitive to gus, but I only saw the first two seasons and the twin peaks episode
(7:34:52 PM) Tobi: they also gave lasseter and the dad character arcs that made them likeable
(7:35:04 PM) Tobi: lasseter couldve easily been one-dimensional forever
(7:35:06 PM) Griffin: I watched it semi-regularly across seasons because my mom was a watcher, and I think things started going downhill in terms of forgiving Shawn too much after season 4
(7:35:08 PM) Griffin: Yeah
(7:35:37 PM) Tobi: but yeah I think at least early on shaun was often depicted as incredibly exasperating
(7:35:49 PM) Griffin: Oh, he's always trying people's patience, yeah
(7:36:20 PM) Griffin: I think there just kind of stopped being a consequence/character growth pattern for him somewhere along the line
(7:36:28 PM) Tobi: I think theres a line between trying people's patience and having them portrayed as squares for being annoyed and having them depicted as understandably annoyed
(7:36:36 PM) Tobi: now where psych fell along that line varied
(7:36:52 PM) Griffin: yeah
(7:37:36 PM) Tobi: and yeah I think the character growth thing and some other flaws were a result of the initial gimmick having a significantly earlier sell-by date than the relationships and detectivery
(7:37:57 PM) Griffin: I mean further into the show's run
(7:38:02 PM) Tobi: yeah
(7:38:27 PM) Tobi: Ive seen bits and pieces and i think it was fucking absurd that juliet had to be confessed to that he wasnt psychic
(7:39:24 PM) Tobi: I think the best way to handle it would've been to very gradually transition to everyone sort of unspokenly knowing it was a gimmick and the theatricalness being less and less earnest and more of a shared inside joke between the characters
(7:40:16 PM) Griffin: they should have had a standalone episode not told from Shawn's point of view, featuring levery other main character, where they slowly conclude that he's not psychic at all, but that he'd be utterly insufferable as a normal consultant
(7:40:16 PM) Griffin: yeah
(7:41:01 PM) Griffin: so they'd all just agree to humor Shawn
(7:41:28 PM) Griffin: and Shawn would only show up at the end of the episode walking in on them, and asking what was going on, and all of them feigning total nonchalance
(7:41:53 PM) Tobi: wow
(7:41:57 PM) Tobi: thats a really good idea
(7:42:06 PM) Tobi: though im biased
(7:42:19 PM) Tobi: i love episodes that shift perspectives among a larger cast
(7:42:22 PM) Griffin: yeah
(7:42:31 PM) Griffin: Fringe did a couple of those that were really enjoyable
(7:42:31 PM) Tobi: have you seen band of brothers?
(7:42:37 PM) Griffin: Funny you should mention
(7:44:24 PM) Griffin: My friends at UMass adapted it into a play-within-a-play, where they invented a new cast of actors at the radio station from the movie, performing a reduced version of the film (taken from the retail copy of the script) as a serial radio drama
(7:47:26 PM) Tobi: huh
(7:49:15 PM) Tobi: anyway I brought it up because it usually chooses one character as the episode's perspective character and does a really fantastic job with it.
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(7:50:38 PM) Griffin: I think what separates a procedural show involving at least one temperamental but ultimately redeemable prodigy and an actual profiler show is that the procedural is a little more impersonal
(7:51:54 PM) Griffin: Shows like Bones (which was fun for the first four or five seasons) would show you different characters doing things, but that's because the narrative structure and filming were meant to give the sense of following these characters
(7:52:34 PM) Tobi: the quarantined-in-the-lab christmas episode from season 1 was so great
(7:52:42 PM) Griffin: x-files?
(7:52:44 PM) Griffin: yeah
(7:52:46 PM) Tobi: bones
(7:53:16 PM) Griffin: oh
(7:53:16 PM) Griffin: ha
(7:53:41 PM) Griffin: x-files has one of those, too, though i suspect bones's didn't involve an homage to The Thing
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(9:13:37 PM) Tobi: d,4(@#1%UfpF sharex
(9:13:42 PM) Tobi: enjoy being my scratchpad
(9:14:10 PM) Griffin: coding foofaraw going on?
(9:14:26 PM) Tobi: less exciting
(9:14:30 PM) Tobi: ftp foofaraw
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(10:01:37 PM) Tobi: are you straight up not even following me on tumblr anymore or do you make a point of not reblogging stuff from me or
(10:01:51 PM) Tobi: like obviously this is a really bizarre thing to make a big deal about but like
(10:02:01 PM) Tobi: you do a lot of reblogging of stuff i posted but from other people
(10:02:02 PM) Griffin: i do reblog stuff from you, pretty often
(10:02:03 PM) Tobi: and im insane
(10:02:07 PM) Tobi: oh
(10:02:10 PM) Tobi: you know what i bet it is
(10:02:17 PM) Tobi: when you reblog from me it's just that little bar
(10:02:25 PM) Griffin: tumblr makes notifications disappear from the activity center at random sometimes
(10:02:28 PM) Tobi: but when you reblog from someone else i see the whole post on my dash
(10:02:35 PM) Tobi: god im nuts
(10:03:13 PM) Griffin: also, whenever i'm catching up on tumblr (always, forever, some people make their own hells, etc) i'm likely to run into one of the superdick crew reblogging something from you before i see your post itself
(10:10:15 PM) Tobi: ah yes
(10:10:16 PM) Tobi: backwards
(10:11:18 PM) Griffin: something something zatanna
(11:14:46 PM) Tobi: misread a post of yours and now I want there to be a riot grrl lesbian punk band called Young Adult Dudebros
(11:15:36 PM) Griffin: some of the phrases that stick out to me and reappear in my mind regularly and make me laugh are misreadings
(11:15:43 PM) Griffin: or just decontextualized sentences
(11:16:04 PM) Griffin: A friend was giving me music recommendations for a band I want to get into, and he said
(11:16:09 PM) Griffin: "Also you might like birds"
(11:16:32 PM) Griffin: "You might like birds" just stuck out as a great sentence out of context and made me laugh for no reason
(11:16:52 PM) Tobi: that is a pretty great sentence
(11:16:59 PM) Tobi: it makes me think of like
(11:17:19 PM) Tobi: amazon recommendations, but for abstract concepts and just general things instead of products to buy
(11:17:55 PM) Griffin: If I ever play an instrument, join/form a band, and get any say in an album name, I will lobby passionately for "You Might Like Birds"
(11:18:06 PM) Tobi: Since you like looking out the window when it's raining, you might like:
Birds
Playing frisbee with a yellow labrador
Laying in the grass staring at the sky
(11:19:19 PM) Tobi: just gonna slot this in here before it leaves my clipboard: http://killrockstars.bandcamp.com/track/complicated hey enjoy an actual back-in-the-day riot grrl punk song that I overlook the not-super-perfect vocalings for because pitch/note whatever aside they have spirit and emotion and it gives me ALL THE FEELSuh because it was the end credits song in gone home
(11:20:10 PM) Griffin: You recently viewed Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett.
You might also like:
The emptiness of language
The death of all meaning
The collapse of all matter as is currantly extant in the physical universe into a single point
(11:23:23 PM) Tobi: amazing
(11:23:44 PM) Tobi: sorry about 3-minute delay someone messaged me but like
(11:23:56 PM) Tobi: i knew when you were taking forever to type that it was gonna be something special
(11:39:38 PM) Griffin: thanks
(11:40:00 PM) Griffin: i didn't mean to let a sixteen minute pause happen but i didn't have any real response so
(11:41:34 PM) Tobi: its fine
(11:41:43 PM) Tobi: on the internet pauses like that are fine
(11:41:56 PM) Tobi: (took me a loooong time to stop reading too much into them)
(11:42:54 PM) Griffin: realistically speaking most of my irl friends are way worse at timely responses, especially any time a group needs to coordinate for a planned activity
(11:43:52 PM) Griffin: it was a miracle when my friends actually organized an outing to see godzilla beforehand, even if it was by a matter of hours, let alone that we actually met, drove out, and got there on time
(11:46:46 PM) Griffin: oh hey
(11:46:54 PM) Griffin: did you hear about double fine remastering grim fandango
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(11:57:23 PM) Tobi: I DID NOT
(11:57:24 PM) Griffin <AUTO-REPLY>: I'm not here right now
(11:57:24 PM) Tobi: WTF
(11:57:28 PM) Tobi: LINK INFO NOW
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(11:59:33 PM) Griffin: http://www.avclub.com/article/grim-fandango-rise-dead-205630
(12:07:39 AM) Tobi: hahahaha he had to beg sony for money since he mismanaged broken age so badly even after getting millions on kickstarter
(12:07:49 AM) Griffin: yep
(12:09:02 AM) Tobi: well i hope it's good but luckily the original is one of the few 3d win95 games that isnt a massive massive pain to get running on modern pcs
(12:09:36 AM) Tobi: I also think we're approaching the point where some win95/98 equivalent of dosbox is gonna pop up
(12:10:05 AM) Griffin: yeah
(12:10:06 AM) Tobi: we already have something like that in the form of glide wrappers
(12:10:55 AM) Tobi: which is one of those computer phrases that is completely opaque because it uses everyday words that mean completely different things in this context
(12:10:57 AM) Griffin: has nobody just gotten around to it yet? it doesn't seem like such an obstacle
(12:11:08 AM) Tobi: its a really really big deal
(12:11:14 AM) Tobi: dos was simple architecturally
(12:12:09 AM) Tobi: win95 was bloated with all these weird little redundant things that developers used in inefficient and unexpected ways because it was the wild west of game development
(12:13:08 AM) Griffin: growing up with a software engineer for a dad, i learned navigating microsoft's infinite capacity to fuck things up was an art for
(12:13:10 AM) Tobi: no longer was it a matter of just like manually managing cpu cycles and memory, now you need to do all that through one of a dozen windows api's that may or may not have carried over to vista/7/8 and arent visible to the end user until something breaks
(12:13:10 AM) Griffin: *form
(12:13:34 AM) Tobi: win8 removed directdraw iirc because fuck you
(12:20:22 AM) Tobi: oh i should clarify
(12:20:48 AM) Tobi: its been possible for a really long time to run a full emulated win95/98 pc using virtualization
(12:21:09 AM) Tobi: what I want is a simpler wrapper for running games with compatibility issues
(12:21:26 AM) Griffin: ah
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(2:01:39 PM) Griffin: ey, i know you're offline or away right now, but when you see this, could you do me a solid and send me the log for our chat last night
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(1:52:44 PM) Griffin is no longer idle.
(1:52:44 PM) Griffin is no longer away.
(2:04:29 PM) Griffin: hey
(2:04:36 PM) Griffin: do you happen to have a log of our conversation from the other night
(2:27:33 PM) Tobi: yes